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October 15, 2009

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PatriciaW

Your opinion is your opinion, Sandra. I think most folks understand that blogging is inherently full of opinions. My original thought was that you shouldn't apologize, but then I didn't read the comments on yesterday's post.

I agree with your solution. At the same time, I'm not opposed to a traditional publisher owning a vanity press. But it should be completely separate and apart from the traditional publishing operations, in name and all else, and they should say so upfront and stick to that. My opinion.

I think TN, and other traditional publishers, could also consider an ebook publishing option for books that meet their quality standard--an absolute requisite--but don't look as though they'd be profitable. At least not initially. They could sell these directly to the public via their website, along with offering them in ebook format by way of Amazon and the likes. If the book surprises them and does well, then move to print, as other ebook publishers do. Maybe this is just a variation of what you suggested. Again, my opinion.

No, TN hasn't asked for anyone's opinion, but in fact, the publishing industry doesn't really have a big solution in its coffers. So listening to and weighing opinions might be a chance to find a nugget of gold. Keep talking (but make sure we know it's you.) :)

Michael Hyatt

Thanks, Sandra. This is definitely an idea worth considering. I will be interested to see your readers’ response to it.

Blessings.

Cecelia Dowdy

I think Patricia's suggestion is a good one...better than what Thomas Nelson is doing now.

However, in order for me to really express an opinion, I'd need to see all the dollars and cents, profit and loss statements, see exactly what's been lost, and where it's been lost. I'm assuming TN's profits were way under budget, so they had to do something before they lost even more money?

Michael Hyatt

@Cecelia: Excuse me ... You got all that from our announcement? Wow.

Sandra Bishop

Mike,

I will watch with interest, as well. Don't know how many folks really want to continue this discussion though. We'll see. I'm nearly done with it myself.

Cecelia,

You do assume too much here. We all see the writing on the wall and realize change is inevitable. Wise business leaders don't wait until it's too late to enact change.

And good luck getting to those P&L's. Let me know how that goes for you!

Darin Shaw

Sandra, thanks for two very thought provoking posts in a row. Perhaps you should blog more!

I came away thinking over two lines from your posts:

First, that TN may have been asking "how can we move forward and mitigate risk?" That's certainly how the move feels to an unpublished author.

Second, for your admitted lack of baseball farm system knowledge, you hit the ball out of the park--the farm system develops players to move up the ranks at the cost of the baseball organization. You could take it a step further, though. Those system players play at a much lower wage than the big leaguers, no perks (it is often a costly endeavor to continue a minor league career). To be a more like a farm system, perhaps TN or whomever could offer up an imprint that paid new authors no advances, with more incentive-laced contracts, yet still foot the bill (and accompanying risk) for POD publishing of a promising author's book. Risk would be minimized, the author would have (by virtue of their talent) earned the TN on the spine of their work, and perhaps, for the publisher, the next Max Lucado would surface.

Again, thanks for sharing your thoughts!

kyle Watson

Have you consider how hard it is to get an agent like Chip to represent our books? Just to read a sample page query? I got a good response from Alive Communications once but no cigar. Even authors with agents haven't made it to Ted Dekker's level. Heck, some are no further than myself. Death may catch a writer first going this route. So at least the Farm Team gives you a chance to find out before you leave this earth. You can say I gave it a shot and have no regrets for trying.

For too long the publishing industry has only allowed a select few through the door of success. John Grisham was rejected 40 times. I wonder how many like him gave up and never attempted again. The farm team gives a writer the chance and the readers can decide the fate.

Sharon A Lavy

I have a suggestion, Sandra. Could you post your picture with your blog post? Then we would know right away that this was your post.

I enjoy reading your posts.

Tracey Michae'l Lewis-Giggetts

I'm still formulating an opinion on TN's new venture but I do think that what you have proposed could work, Sandra. I am both an indie published (fiction) and traditionally published (nonfiction) author. Quite frankly, because of my growing platform I make more money and reach more people that way. However, in my indie publishing I don't use a vanity press. I hire editors, designers, etc myself because it gives me full control and generally costs less. However, there are many writers out there who don't know how do to this and could benefit (and be taken advantage of) in this situation. TN has to be careful that they don't become the latter.

A better option would be to address the real need of indie authors while still limiting their risk. This would mean accepting unsolicited manuscripts, finding the best ones (to uphold the TN standard), use advance dollars to help with marketing (per Sandra) and open up TN's distribution channels. The problem of risk is addressed by TN and the problem of entry, marketing, and distribution for good writers is solved. Furthermore, this becomes a true development imprint that feed the traditional imprints.

Tim Osner

Very cool public dialogue - a successful literary agency, a publishing heavy hitter and writers on all levels. It must be good for the industry if it does nothing more than get the juices flowing. This is why I like to check in on this blog. Thanks and keep it coming.

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